tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post6825330551618702518..comments2023-10-24T03:30:57.035-07:00Comments on The Authentic Update: Preparing for ChangeChironomohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13024533507945352862noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post-4832467061213605982011-07-17T10:45:51.893-07:002011-07-17T10:45:51.893-07:00Except that the lurches back weren't nearly as...Except that the lurches back weren't nearly as dramatic in reality as they might have appeared on paper.Liamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post-79471896519160094362011-07-15T13:42:22.249-07:002011-07-15T13:42:22.249-07:00I would say that change in a specific direction (b...I would say that change in a specific direction (back towards traditional sacred music) is inevitable at this point...it has always been inevitable whenever we have strayed from it (1200's, 1400's, 1600's, 1700's, late 1800's, and now...). The idea of music from the secular culture usurping tradition is as old as the church...and it has always resulted in a very sudden lurch back to tradition... sometimes through a bottom-up re-assertion of tradition as a result of cultural trends in the same direction (monasticism in the 1300's - Early 19th century reassertions of tradition after the revolutionary period in Europe, etc.), sometimes in a reactionary way through legislation (Pius IV at Trent, Pius X with Tra le Sollecitudini). Very often tradition re-asserts itself for a short time (50-75 years) before again being supplanted by secular forces. It's a constant battle...but a predictable one as well. We are leaving a period of secular assertion in the liturgy. Where are we headed....I think it is inevitable that we head back towards tradition. <br /><br />That's what I mean when I say that. If secular music were able to permanently supplant the sacred music of the church, it would have done so nearly 1000 years ago. Or 800 years ago. Or 600 years ago. Or 250 years ago. Or 100 years ago. But it ALWAYS comes back. I have no reason to believe that now would be any different.Chironomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024533507945352862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post-70820329053905099432011-07-13T17:13:33.619-07:002011-07-13T17:13:33.619-07:00What I meant is the idea that change in a certain ...What I meant is the idea that change in a certain direction is inevitable. Your essay employs inevitability in two senses, and I was directing my comment at that one.Liamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post-78159704420632228662011-07-13T12:17:25.892-07:002011-07-13T12:17:25.892-07:00I've seen the music at Mass go from Polyphony/...I've seen the music at Mass go from Polyphony/Chant to guitar/folk to piano/folk to piano/keyboard contemporary to contemporary christian...all in the span of my life, mostly within the span of my career. My point is that it's pretty easy to see where we are headed, so what are we going to do to prevent that "pastoral problem" that so many are concerned with in every other context?Chironomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024533507945352862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post-84943418665386092612011-07-13T12:13:43.024-07:002011-07-13T12:13:43.024-07:00So you believe that things will never change? Talk...So you believe that things will never change? Talk about a grandiose concept!Chironomohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13024533507945352862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7281780779517958140.post-33257737469709967512011-07-13T11:08:41.128-07:002011-07-13T11:08:41.128-07:00Inevitability is a grandiose concept in this conte...Inevitability is a grandiose concept in this context.Liamnoreply@blogger.com